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Coffee 6:20 Wed Feb 4
Taiwan plane crash
Unbelievable pictures.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8-NDJNIAAEdvyJ.jpg:large

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Westham67 6:28 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Not surprised the state of Taipei domestic, made the old hong kong airport look good. In the center of the city , you can see people cleaning their teeth as you pass their windows

Used to be an airline called FAT Air , Far-eastern air travel

Capitol Man 7:26 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Those pictures are crazy. Imagine having that coming at you. Amazing most survived.

Mr Polite 8:51 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
No white British on board?


Not news worthy then!

Mr Polite 8:53 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Actually, just seen the pics, we'll give it a small amount of coverage

Joke Whole 10:13 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Does it clip that yellow supplies "truck" just beneath it?

billythekid 10:16 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
The vids here....

http://rt.com/news/229135-taiwan-plane-crash-video/

Johnson 10:20 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Saw this on Facebook this morning and thought it was one of those CGI things. FMOB

On The Ball 10:24 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Blimey, that is much "better" than the clip they showed on BBC Breakfast this morning.

Wonder if the pilot is in for praise for his brilliance or something not as nice.... Looks like he did well to miss those buildings.

Westham67 11:10 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
16 dead at the moment apparently. I think if he'd have clipped that building they'd all be gone

bishbosh 11:16 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
The way the plane turned was the pilot guiding it to the river I think it was going straight on to the motorway otherwise

Coffee 11:19 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
bish

Looks more like a stall -- low speed, left wing down and would have entered a spin with more height.

Westham67 11:24 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
I was just reading that 30 still trapped

I'm surprised they dont have more incidents there, mind you they've had a few, The domestic airport is inside Taipei city , like having an airport on Tottenham court road

Joke Whole 11:40 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Isn't there a report of one of the pilots calling a Mayday on account of an engine flame out?

Climbing after take-off on full throttle then losing one engine would have scored full points on the unbalanced yaw scorecard - if the crew did try to miss the buildings and go for the river, they would probably have had less than a dozen seconds to work out and implement such a plan.

Coffee 11:45 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Joke

Just guessing here, but if as 67 says the airport is right in the centre of town and you have to climb steeply after take off, and you've got a full load on board, one engine might struggle to make it -- the more so if there's a problem with the other engine. That video seems to show the aircraft in a fairly nose-up attitude as it clears those tall buildings, consequently losing air speed and then stalling.

Joe C 12:03 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Flying next week. Hate flying. Why did I watch that?

Fivetide 12:09 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Incredible video. Appears the pilot saved a lot of lives by evading that building and getting the plane into the river.

Westham67 12:17 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/Taipei+Songshan+Airport/@25.067566,121.552699,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x3442abf1a4142659:0x93180ddcb6758a3a

coffee if you zoom in you'll see it in the middle of city streets

Joke Whole 12:27 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Coffee 11:45 Wed Feb 4

OK - not seen the video (getting an SMS here is a cause for celebration) - I was just going on the stills in the original post and personal...baggage.

From what you say, it sounds like it was a "clear the buildings then worry about what happens next" solution.

Takes speed of thought and bravery well beyond my capabilities, does that.

Coffee 12:29 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
Joke

Just guessing, but that's what it looks like. Hope they'll still have above stall speed when they clear the buildings. But no recovery time when they didn't.


67, I see what you mean!

Westham67 12:37 Wed Feb 4
Re: Taiwan plane crash
I used to be able to get from the airport to my mates in the Shannon pub in 10 minutes

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